I Was Thirteen When They Put Me on Estrogen - Jonni Skinner (#39)

18 September 2025

With Jonni Skinner

59 minutes

Jonni Skinner was thirteen years old when a gender clinic at the University of Michigan put him on cross-sex hormones after a fabricated diagnosis. Eight years on, he joins Stella O'Malley, Mia Hughes and Dr Bret Alderman to tell a story that is not about individual clinical error but about a system engineered, at every level, to override parental hesitation, silence dissent, and keep vulnerable children on a medical pathway from which no exit was ever clearly marked.

Jonni Skinner grew up in rural Michigan in a religious household, the kind of environment where being a sensitive, feminine boy already carried its own weight. Diagnosed with high-functioning autism at four, he moved through childhood with a particular vulnerability that would later make him an easier target for a system he had no reason to distrust. When puberty brought body dysmorphia and a dawning awareness of his attraction to other males, his mother did what any caring parent would: she looked for professional help. That help came in the form of the University of Michigan's gender clinic, and it was anything but. What Jonni describes in this episode is not a story of well-meaning clinicians who simply got things wrong. It is a story of fabricated diagnoses—he was told he had an endocrine disorder he did not have—escalating hormone doses, threats to remove him from his home if his mother failed to comply, falsified medical records, and clinical referrals to sex shops for so-called treatment supplies. He was thirteen years old. Stella O'Malley, Mia Hughes and Dr Bret Alderman give Jonni the space to tell his story in full, and the conversation moves with the careful attention his account demands. There is no sensationalism here. The hosts understand that what Jonni is describing—a gay, autistic adolescent whose sexuality and distress were reframed as gender incongruence and then medicated—is exactly the population that gender-critical researchers and clinicians have been raising alarms about for years. Hearing it from someone who lived it shifts the register entirely. One of the episode's most important moments comes when Jonni explains why he is speaking out now. It is not, he says, primarily about his own healing. It is about the children who are still inside the system he escaped. Eight years of his adolescence were shaped by a medical pathway he was never equipped to consent to and that his mother was coerced into accepting. The physical and psychological consequences he describes are not abstractions from a study—they are his body and his history. The three hosts bring their professional backgrounds to bear without turning Jonni's experience into a case study. Stella O'Malley's experience as a psychotherapist, Mia Hughes's research focus and Dr Alderman's clinical perspective surface quietly in the questions they ask and the points they draw out. What emerges is a portrait of a young person who needed compassionate therapy and was instead handed an irreversible medical pathway dressed up as affirmation. This episode is one of the clearest illustrations the podcast has produced of what the gender-critical argument is ultimately about: protecting children from a medical framework that has prioritised ideology over evidence, and adult conviction over childhood welfare. Jonni Skinner is in his early twenties now, and he is saying what needs to be said.

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